Note from old RD

[Saiyan]

Riithi simply leaves, but it's not that HC is leaving, but because the core members are leaving.... that's the reason RD broke up (I think...)

but the reason the core members left, is due to the sucky game code these days !

[Peets]

anyway
it doesn't matter anymore
Running with scissors (right spelled?) will cary on the RD spirit

[LordNoble]

Originally posted by Riithi
It was not me who disolved the alliance...
Team spirit was gone, and killed the alliance.
Alot of ppl were leaving and there was alot of discontent.
IF you read my post more clearly you will see that it was just stating that RD had changed.
Alot of ppl are angry becouse they say I blew up RD.
Only thing I did was fuel the conversation.
If RD was going so good, it would not have had the impact it had.

To BigD: guess you are still mad @ me becouse I didn't supported you for the position of Admiral... You are a great player but handling an alliance is not a thing you excel in.. I am sorry.

Hope the new alliance "unning with scissors" will succeed and harbor the RD players that are left without an alliance.

To all angry ppl I would like to say:
It was hard that I put the issue on the DG forums..
But otherwise RD would have limped along, and that's even worse imho.

Riithi bows to all dogs and ex-dogs.
Was great playing!

For starters, the general public elected bigd over kage musha as admiral before the round started. Like you, I was against biggie being admiral for a number a reasons (many of the same ones why I didnt run) . If you wanted some one else as being admiral, then you should have done your best to convince people to vote for km or vote for some one else.

I have to agree with you that the team spirit was lacking from many within in RD. But there were so many others that were working on the problem. What have you ever done to remedy this problem riithi? You come by to chat with us but that is it. But you have not shown any dedication to the game since round three.

Before you start bitching about the problems, you need to try to be part of the soluition. And players like you were a big problem for RD this round. You would sign up for a sector, play a couple of days, and quit. And when one or two people quit from the same team, that team is very much screwed because we never populated the sectors with that many people (I think 5 was the most we placed in any sector).

For people wondering that if this is a sqabble between the "old guard" and the "new guard" that is not the case at all. There were many from the old guard that worked their asses off this round. Xtra fresh stayed up 40 some hours straight working on a diplomatic solution which I believed led to a burn out on his part.

There were many people that were working to get RD on track. with this declaration riithi, you spited on each and every single one. Since I stopped playing actively, KM took over my spot in leadership and was doing a great job of organizing people. I of course decided to hang around and lend what ever support I could to the alliance. And between me, biggie, xtra, dq, and km, we were all bringing the alliance slowley but surely together.

I think out of respect for all the dedicated members in the form RD, you should have waited the end of the round before making any declaration riithi. I have been personnaly angry at many people for various reasons in DG but never like this. This was the lowest blow I have ever seen in DG

[zees67]

Reservoir Dogs will never die, they'll just fade away and be back stronger than ever before sometime in the future. As an impartial observer, I have always associated RD with Gollum, dunno why. Maybe it's due to his insight and understanding of the game concept which truly amazes me.

Till today, the loss of his planet Greyflood in round 3 of DG will be remembered by me. Make no mistake, this is not to belittle Gollum or RD. It's just to show how epic and memorable a player like Gollum and an alliance like RD is. Hell, I can't even remember the name of my most treasured planet(maybe Homeplanet!) or the funnest planet I invaded.

When Gollum didn't start this round, I told some FBL mates, RD won't be like before. No doubt, all the great players within RD were still playing but it just felt different. Just like as if FBL were without Lantz, Corn and eljay. If everyone of these guys aren't playing round 5 for FBL, I doubt I would continue playing with FBL. Probably just be unallied until someone whacks me off and reduces me to homeplanet.

Anyway, when/if Gollum decides to return playing DG, I'm sure all RD players will rally around him once again and we'll have a great alliance up and running in no time. Besides Gollum, I'm truly surprised that Xtrafresh wasn't admiral in his absence. It would have made his decision to quit DG that much harder. Besides, Xtrafresh doesnt come across as a quiter. DG community needs players like Xtrafrsh around despite the coding or server problems.

Leaving/quitting a game you really love never changes anything. You neither contribute nor affect what goes on after you leave. I suggested that to Patsch last round when OPA considered abandoning round 4 and I'm glad they didnt. You may get beat due to whatever reasons beyond your control but it's just a game. Losing your fleets and planets might be downright frustrating and a sense hopelessness pervades your thoughts. But losing a member of an alliance is even worse, it's like losing a comrade...more than that...a friend.

I personally look forward to seeing a revival of Reservoir Dogs. Who knows we might even meet RD in combat for furture rounds. I speak for myself when I say I prefer to go to war with EVERY single top 10 alliance mano a mano on a level playing field for variety. Even against our treasured allies as well such as OPA, DE, NUP, etc. That would be fun and that's what DG must be about.

Long live Reservoir Dogs.

zees67
FBL

[OverdooS]

I may regret this in the long run, but I didn't take the time to read all posts.

I just wanna say that the core of BC started in round 3 too and we grew and learned. RD grew way stronger than we did, but we started halfway through the game I think. Anywayz, I have very good memories about R3 too, but the best ones where, without a doubt in my mind, the time when we were at war with RD. We got beaten, but it was fun.

That is a bit what I miss this round.. the fun in things.

I don't manage to log in as much as last round, and for some reason, I feel the same with other people in the alliance. The thrill is gone. (I hope it comes back soon though)

RD and your founding fathers, I hate to see you go, because I would have loved a rematch this round or next round.

RD is dead, LONG LIVE RD!

[Ishamael]

Easy to blaime someone else isn't it LN

[mike2237]

u guys will be sorely missed we had fun in gal 2 in round 3.

[LightBurner]

Originally posted by mike2237
u guys will be sorely missed we had fun in gal 2 in round 3.

Indeed.

[LordNoble]

Originally posted by Ishamael
Easy to blaime someone else isn't it LN

and who am I blaming ish? Riithi? Yes we have had problems this round but Riithi was not in the thick of things. He hasent put his heart and soul into the alliance as has so many others. I am just one of many ish.

That is like DarkSide being inactive two rounds coming and declaring that DE is no longer an alliance. Yet there are many people who would be dedicated to that alliance.

[Admiral Sinaris]

Hm, LN, the question that pops into my mind is:
If Darkside did exactly that, would the players of DE drop appart and split up into other alliances? I don´t think so. How come this happens when Riithi does it?

I think there´s more to it, and even though you will hardly consider my oppinion worthy, even I noticed last round already that there was a lack of communication and friendship. It seems it got even worse this round.

I think that Riithi wasn´t the reason for RD to fall apart. If an alliance dies because of such a thing, then it was already dead in my oppinion. Riithi was only the trigger that showed it to the world, that prooved how dead RD already was.

[Emperor Gav II]

Originally posted by Admiral Sinaris
Hm, LN, the question that pops into my mind is:
If Darkside did exactly that, would the players of DE drop appart and split up into other alliances? I don´t think so. How come this happens when Riithi does it?

I think there´s more to it, and even though you will hardly consider my oppinion worthy, even I noticed last round already that there was a lack of communication and friendship. It seems it got even worse this round.

I think that Riithi wasn´t the reason for RD to fall apart. If an alliance dies because of such a thing, then it was already dead in my oppinion. Riithi was only the trigger that showed it to the world, that prooved how dead RD already was.

my personal experience of RD last would agree with some parts of what u said. There were a FEW players who played for themselves. But being honest Sinaris there was never much convo when u were around...maybe there was just something about u that RD members didn't like. And communication in RD was second to none while i was there, if u were irc active u could find out what was happening all u had to do was ask again if ur experience was different then maybe there is a reason not related to RD.

As for RD, from what i gather the old core of players have gone now, but last round every player there would throw their fleet into a battle for RD, alliance spirit was still strong, even when Gollum and some others began a go inactive. My reasons for leaving RD r my own and there r a number who know y, it had nothing to do with this so called decline in round 4, there were changes but nothing that i objected to with all my force.

Maybe the current RD isn't the RD of round 3, maybe it's evolved into something else but the team spirit will go with the players in what ever they do.

again gl to all former RD, u r all great players and will prove again and again u r.

[asuddenmorning]

best of wishes to you all, we had a fun fight while it lasted. i hope the rest of BA will respect to ceasfire for now.

[elfwine]

This is my opinion and so it isn't opened for discussing.
You can agree with it, or not.

I had a friend in galaxy 4 in round 3. Before i had an account (i made my login in in galaxy 24, Zeddio) he showed me his account and some of his enemies, namely the ReservoirDogs.

Man, back then you ruled. You had the skill and the spirit and perhaps the union among yourselves, that made RD the legendary alliance that it is nowadays. It was THE perfect alliance for that sort of game (it was a diffent game, perhaps better).

But the "old" RD has evolved to RDOGS.

Perhaps you kept the spirit or the skills but from my point of view, you don't have the soul. You have some of the best players, but perhaps that's "all" you have now. Just like srosh said.

Someone in RDOGS brag to have won a war when it was 5 against 20. I have seen an entire sector and more being ocupied by a "simple" RDog.
I 'm NOT saying that you aren't among the best of the best, many of you are, and the entire community knows that, but you must all have notice that no one fears RD like in round 3 anymore.

I think RD' soul has gone. Gollum has gone, Baggins, Riithi and many others also. Xtra is still there and you have excelent players like BigD, or LN or my friend Sulla

But, IMHO, "THE" RD was a round 3 alliance. In round 4 and 5 it's just an alliance with some of the best players around.

Good Luck for all in RWS or in other alliances.



P.S- Perhaps the problem is not yourselves but the game.

[chiitta]

I am sad about RD dissapearing, I joined at DG in round 3 and i had the luck to join at RD when i din´t know him, they let me join and tauch me how to play

I am proud to be a dogs all the time that RD was alive after i begun playing DG

I must say thanks to all dogs members: the older ones who tauch me as Gollum, DilBaggins, Riithi, Turotu, Xtrafresh, Jack_Frost and i can´t forbide my good friend almighty, tehre are a lot more.... and the newer ones as BigD ( my invincible mate), jackist, Ironman, Sulla, Druid and a long etc. All them are great people

I tried to be a good dog (i think that i got ), there was some problems RD for internal problem but always got a solution to it, this round there wasn´t a real sense of ally, at the begun each one was thinking at his own things. But when all was going better a wave of people leaving arrived and riithi posted it. RD was in crissis since the begin of the round and it is the oficial dead, which all dogs knew some time ago...

In conclusion i must say that i am sorry about RD dead, i was proud to be a dog and Gollum if you read me (i don´t think so ) sorry man, but now another age has begun, we will build one of the best alliances in DG. although i join in the new ally i always will be a dog and ty to everyone

RD is the best!!!

[LMF]

well I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter

but this just seems like a case of old traditional wise guys, and new upcoming potential youngsters

It happens everyday in life, old man who is a tycoon in some company and lets his son takeover

same situation with RD
People used...at least when i started out in Round 3...i knew RD for their core members of Gollum, Xtrafresh etc...
They were known for the meticulous ingame skill, and dedication

I am sure there are many dedicated RDs at this point
and the faces that brand RD like BigD, LN. KM, DQ
They just don't have the same appeal that r3 RD did...

they jsut have to find their own way
I mean its sad to lose a symbolic alliance like RD
they were an alliance that showd
ruthless agressive gameplay
Maybe it was because it was Round 3,
Round 4, 5 just encourages defense
there are no longer suicides

Free sectors, i believe is the key
But the issue of the kind of load the servers would be taking on
and for those who played r3...remember if you ever gotten 100 planets...and had to queue all those fleets to get those resources into the big battleships we played with?

I somewhat agree with Patsch and the ideas he threw out
Back then, the strategists like Gollum were GOD
and they were what made the difference

Things change, a new era...
hopefully things will work out
Never faced old/new RD
but good luck to you now

Also, i'm wandering, what is the difference in serverload...
back then we had thoussands of planets
many ppl had 100s even 200s
yet, the server cannot handle 30 planets...
is it the number of people?
the cost ?
the new DG version from Round 3 to r4?