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Old 19th Dec 03, 09:12 PM   #196
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LOOOOL go ask Kev if you are allowed to send a stream of bombers without getting banned

Your opinion is kinda lame IMO
please tell me you are joking...

if not, you'r just stupid...

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So you agree then that if I send 2 fighters to block an invasion, it isn't using the fighter bug.

Or if I send a bomber to block the invasion?
by this i assume you mean sending only 1 fleet to block an invasion for 1 turn, like what LDK is accused of in this thread.
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Old 19th Dec 03, 09:40 PM   #197
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God what a boring thread this is.
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Old 19th Dec 03, 11:49 PM   #198
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by this i assume you mean sending only 1 fleet to block an invasion for 1 turn, like what LDK is accused of in this thread.
Misquoted Azador - that was me, I believe. But yes, I do mean just this. The fact that Annatar got Dr. Kev to warn a player just for this with the threat of futher action if the activity continues inplied that this behavior falls under the figher bug rule.

Granted - in this case it wasn't a single fighter, but the intent is the same. Sending a small fleet with no hope of surviving a single turn to delay an invasion.

It's an interesting question. When does it become bug exploitation? It seems like using a fighter, 10 fighters, a bomber, a freighter or a battleship to do this is still expoiting the bug. The bug isn't that a fighter can block an invasion, it's that an invasion fleet can be blocked from invading by insignificant forces guarding the planet. It may not be as obvious as a stream of fighters arriving every turn, but it's exploiting the same bug that allows the fighter to block an invasion.
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Old 20th Dec 03, 12:46 AM   #199
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but what if the attacking fleet is, lets say, 800mil.
And this would be the comm:


Attack Attacker [2] xxxx (xxxx) 10 800,000,000
Bug(?) Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 10 500,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000

Assuming all is a good warfleet, the 500mil fleet wouldn't stand a chance, but is this bug abuse to?
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Old 20th Dec 03, 02:08 AM   #200
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but what if the attacking fleet is, lets say, 800mil.
And this would be the comm:


Attack Attacker [2] xxxx (xxxx) 10 800,000,000
Bug(?) Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 10 500,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000

Assuming all is a good warfleet, the 500mil fleet wouldn't stand a chance, but is this bug abuse to?
shiner is imposible Azador is retard he cant understand this
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but what if the attacking fleet is, lets say, 800mil.
And this would be the comm:


Attack Attacker [2] xxxx (xxxx) 10 800,000,000
Bug(?) Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 10 500,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000
Defense Defender [1] xxxx (xxxx) 11 1,000,000,000

Assuming all is a good warfleet, the 500mil fleet wouldn't stand a chance, but is this bug abuse to?
I would say no. Drop that "bug(?)" fleet to 80M and I'd probably still say no but only because capturing a planet for a tick probably isn't worth the 80M fleet. I'd tend to think someone was just being stupid if they did that. I suppose it's possible that the stored resource on the planet could make it worth an 80M fleet but that'd be a pretty unusual case.

In the example by Azador:
Spawn Again Azador [GOOD] xxxx (xxxxxx) 10 100,188,000
Waterfalls Azador [GOOD] xxxx (xxxx) 10 166,095,500
taxi12 Sync [ONU] xxxx (xxxx) 10 2,472,000
BigBang IronMan [ONU] xxxx (xxxx) 11 356,508,000
ReTaGuArDiA Konamixs [ONU] xxxx (xxxx) 11 277,413,202

You are looking at a blocking fleet 1/100th the size of the attacking fleet(s). So in your example we would be seeing about a 8M fleet blocking the 800M fleet. It could be worth it to sacrifice the 8M fleet to save the planet.

If it was biff's world, any time the defender gained an real advantage by blocking an attacking fleet with a sacrificial fleet it would be considered exploiting the bug. I don't contend that this is against the rules as they are presently enforced. However, if they were in my alliance I might slap them upside the head for doing it and kick them if they persist.

After all, it certainly possible that someone could do this unintentionally. It isn't as obvious as sending a stream of fighters.
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And Annatar I really wonder who is more retarded. You ain't even capable of speaking a decent english and probably failed in school ( I'm actually really sorry that you aren't as intelligent as average people) but do you have to annoy the whole community with your stupidity? I'd say you are a BigD wannabe but at least he spoke a decent english

My suggestion to you: go in a school without internet, learn some decent english and how to behave and then come back or if you fail again in school then have a happy life without internet. thx
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God what a boring thread this is.
lets tell jokes or something then.

There is one proverb I like very much:
"Blogam sokejui ir kiausai maiso" I will try to translate. "To a bad dancer even his ball disturbs him" translation is awful , but I hope Annatar got the point. I will explain it if he will need it.
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God what a boring thread this is.
ur arent really helping
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as for the thread, it is boring, ppl, plz stop flaming and discussing diferent issues which have nothing to do with the war.
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There is one proverb I like very much:
"Blogam sokejui ir kiausai maiso" I will try to translate. "To a bad dancer even his ball disturbs him" translation is awful , but I hope Annatar got the point. I will explain it if he will need it.
i have my ball very big :P
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And Annatar I really wonder who is more retarded. You ain't even capable of speaking a decent english and probably failed in school ( I'm actually really sorry that you aren't as intelligent as average people) but do you have to annoy the whole community with your stupidity? I'd say you are a BigD wannabe but at least he spoke a decent english

My suggestion to you: go in a school without internet, learn some decent english and how to behave and then come back or if you fail again in school then have a happy life without internet. thx
hmmm im very intelligent, nobody teach me english and when i started playing DG i also started speak english :P i dont had the lucky that you had, but im more intelligent that you sure bc i don need any teacher to learn english

shut up stupid :P
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can you be my teacher? plz plz i teach you in diplomatic and you teach me in english lol

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"Blogam sokejui ir kiausai maiso" I will try to translate. "To a bad dancer even his ball disturbs him" translation is awful , but I hope Annatar got the point. I will explain it if he will need it.
We have something similiar in Portuguese. It goes like this:

"Quando não se sabe, até os pêlos do cu atrapalham"
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